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PostSubject: philosophical discussion   Wed May 28, 2008 2:08 am

a topic for any subject related to philosophy.

my first debate: can man convince himself of a lie that he has told.

my reply: yes.
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PostSubject: Re: philosophical discussion   Wed May 28, 2008 5:18 am

yes lol
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PostSubject: Re: philosophical discussion   Wed May 28, 2008 6:26 am

but why?
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PostSubject: Re: philosophical discussion   Wed May 28, 2008 9:35 am

yes, but I can't explain in english but let me try
if a human tells a lie, he pictures that lie in his head, if he keeps on telling that lie and others talk about it like it's the truth his innermind?(don't know the english phrase) will start to see something of the truth in it(still knowing it's a lie) but after a while the mind will consider it the truth and the person will tell it as if it's the truth, so no signs of lying will be showable, same thing for brainwashing only heavier, but the brain will control your body and soul, if you have a broken toe for example and you really imagine no pain at all and keep thinking that till the moment you won't feel the pain if you keep concentrating but if you start walking the concentration will be lost and your toe hurts but when you stop and concentrate the toe will be quicker painless because it already happened in your mind.

when I read this back it's maybe not clear, but it really sucks I can't spell english to well Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: philosophical discussion   Wed May 28, 2008 3:50 pm

thats what i understand. A person must be able to accept that that lie is a possibility. My old english teacher stopped smoking by convincing himself that he wasnt a smoker.
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PostSubject: Re: philosophical discussion   Wed May 28, 2008 4:08 pm

I also have a theorie for No that the man can't convince himself from a lie, but that's to hard for me to explain now, sorry Razz
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PostSubject: Re: philosophical discussion   Wed May 28, 2008 5:59 pm

yeah same here sometimes they dont have any feelings
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PostSubject: Re: philosophical discussion   Thu May 29, 2008 4:07 am

wtf. Who doesnt have feelings?
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PostSubject: Re: philosophical discussion   Thu May 29, 2008 5:12 am

like i mean they dont believe in god or something like that they lie and thinks its good
there better explaination
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PostSubject: Re: philosophical discussion   Thu May 29, 2008 8:50 am

I understand but then their mind is controlled by "picture" created by someone who makes and is perfect,

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PostSubject: Re: philosophical discussion   Fri May 30, 2008 5:46 am

not controlled, God gives free will. I also didnt want to bring God into this...
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PostSubject: Re: philosophical discussion   Fri May 30, 2008 6:15 am

no, the mind will be controled by your own mind created by a picture made by god(is what the innermind will think). but all that mathers god cna't be for sure. so let's stop with god =\

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PostSubject: Re: philosophical discussion   Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:23 am

whats ur first language JVL?
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PostSubject: Re: philosophical discussion   Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:08 am

Dutch.

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PostSubject: Re: philosophical discussion   Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:15 am

Interesting.
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